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whether it is obama's tax increase, whether we get obama's tax increase tomorrow or get it a month from now the net result is still the same. we're going to have a less competitive economy because of what is coming out of washington. adam: chime in, rick said, nah why do you say that? >> you will get a tax increase. i think number will be closer to 500,000 before we're done. certainly closer than 250,000. this is, i don't know, for years i've had to listen to this, it is going to hurt our economy if we raise taxes on the top 2%. there are many things happening that can hurt our economy. the fact we're having this conversation two or three days before the end of the year is hurtings our economy. adam: but we've seen that. >> raising taxes isn't going to be it. adam: let me bring dan back in here. dan, i want to ask you, raising taxes only raises $80 billion at best in a budget almost a trillion dollars over budget. so what do you to fix that problem? >> all we have to do to balance the budget in 10 years limit the growth of government spending so that the budget climbs by an average 2.5%
whether it is obama's tax increase, whether we get obama's tax increase tomorrow or get it a month from now the net result is still the same. we're going to have a less competitive economy because of what is coming out of washington. adam: chime in, rick said, nah why do you say that? >> you will get a tax increase. i think number will be closer to 500,000 before we're done. certainly closer than 250,000. this is, i don't know, for years i've had to listen to this, it is going to hurt our...
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which i would say should be exact replica that you pass obama cut, pure tax cut, as we went over the cliff. do it on income tax, capital gains. you are saying we'll introduce the cut thursday. clean bill. none of the other stuff in it, like the wind power credit and all of this other stimulus junk. that would be what theteams are demanding. give it to them on monday. -- thursday, it will be a pure tax cut. >> by the time you get there, you have a market retook whatever is happening in washington. the asian markets open in 15 minutes. tomorrow market reacting to the past couple of days. steve, what about the premise they don't go forward with amending it. they pass it. all democratic votes and 40, 50 republican votes. >> that is probably the most likely outcome at this point unless they get to 218. it doesn't make sense to do this. the time to have had the fight over the substance in my view was in the past. i don't understand why there wasn't more coordination between the leaders in the house and senate on the republican side to get away from this. if you want to distance yourself, t
which i would say should be exact replica that you pass obama cut, pure tax cut, as we went over the cliff. do it on income tax, capital gains. you are saying we'll introduce the cut thursday. clean bill. none of the other stuff in it, like the wind power credit and all of this other stimulus junk. that would be what theteams are demanding. give it to them on monday. -- thursday, it will be a pure tax cut. >> by the time you get there, you have a market retook whatever is happening in...
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won and, gets the tax rate increases. on the other hand, you do have another deadline coming in about two months, according to timothy geithner and that is the increase in the debt ceiling and at that point, it would seem to me the republicans hold most of the leverage, because they can at least threaten to send the country into default unless there are serious and main spending cuts. at that point does this obama victory perhaps look a little different? >> well, i mean, i think the question is, are they really going to want to do what they did last time with the debt ceiling, which ultimately caused us to have a downgrade of our economy. do they want to do that again? i think it is a bit of bluffing. i don't think they really want to do that. in terms of the president winning, he has won, though he will catch a lot of grief as byron alluded to from the left for, if he goes up to 400,000, for example, they think he should stick at 250 and don't want any kind of social security cuts and that is on the table apparently in t
won and, gets the tax rate increases. on the other hand, you do have another deadline coming in about two months, according to timothy geithner and that is the increase in the debt ceiling and at that point, it would seem to me the republicans hold most of the leverage, because they can at least threaten to send the country into default unless there are serious and main spending cuts. at that point does this obama victory perhaps look a little different? >> well, i mean, i think the...
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meeting this the red room, president obama held firm for tax cuts for families making up to $250,000 per year, and joining me on the north lawn of the white house is kristen welker. kristen, let's listen to what the president said about and up or down vote or what he expects from the senate. >> i had a good and constructive discussion here with the leadership about this tax hike on the middle-class. i am optimistic that we can reach an agreement that will be passed in both houses. if an agreement is not reached in time between senator reid and senator mcconnell, then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor and up or down vote for the floor, and i believe a p proposal could pass both houses with majorities as long as the leaders allow it to actually come to a vote. if members of the house or the senate want to vote no, they can. but we should let everybody vote. >> kristen, this up or down vote seems to be be the big news of the day, and isn't this what the white house wanted all along? >> well, it is. it is prp's way of saying, look, vote on his basic proposal, the proposal th
meeting this the red room, president obama held firm for tax cuts for families making up to $250,000 per year, and joining me on the north lawn of the white house is kristen welker. kristen, let's listen to what the president said about and up or down vote or what he expects from the senate. >> i had a good and constructive discussion here with the leadership about this tax hike on the middle-class. i am optimistic that we can reach an agreement that will be passed in both houses. if an...
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health care tax. the only thing you left out of that wrap is just like greece. >> the first time an attorney general to be held in contempt. >> and the vote that the house republicans want is a political vote. >> they played a bad hand, right now it's going to be a witch hunt. if you get more then it becomes intervention. >> the water has just now breached over the sand dunes. >> hurricane sandy a superstorm meteorologists are calling a once in a lifetime occurrence. the whole coast is devastated. >> the number of ambulances to move these children is remarkable. >> and lost homes in many forms-- ♪ ♪ >> andrew breitbart died this morning, he was 43. he was a publisher, an activist and a commentator, but that says almost nothing about this force of nature. he was a big kid who treated his opponents like humans. it was never about people, it was always, always about principles. . >> the u.s. has just evacuated all personnel from benghazi to tripoli. >> this was something that was a concerted effort,
health care tax. the only thing you left out of that wrap is just like greece. >> the first time an attorney general to be held in contempt. >> and the vote that the house republicans want is a political vote. >> they played a bad hand, right now it's going to be a witch hunt. if you get more then it becomes intervention. >> the water has just now breached over the sand dunes. >> hurricane sandy a superstorm meteorologists are calling a once in a lifetime...
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raising taxes on rich people is what obama talks about instead of doing his job. there are two costs to this. one, if you take money out of savings and investment, which is what you're doing with this, it doesn't help, it reduces the incentives to save, invest and work and the other thing you do is you never get to reform government entitlements. >> that's not causal. >> it is, absolutely. >> that's not really. >> you live in new york i live in d.c., washington, this is all causal. the reason he's talking about tax increases is to avoid the conversation and dealing with spending restraints. that's why obama does what he does. >> the reason i doubt that, grover, is because we've all done the math and we all absolutely agree on the math that you can't get out of the deficit hole we're in by taxing rich people even if you tax them at 100%. everybody know knows that. so when republicans say we don't have a tax problem, we have a spending problem, the fact is we've got both and we can deal with that. you gave your blessing to the proposal that john boehner put together
raising taxes on rich people is what obama talks about instead of doing his job. there are two costs to this. one, if you take money out of savings and investment, which is what you're doing with this, it doesn't help, it reduces the incentives to save, invest and work and the other thing you do is you never get to reform government entitlements. >> that's not causal. >> it is, absolutely. >> that's not really. >> you live in new york i live in d.c., washington, this is...
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>> you know obama ran on the fact that he would raise taxes. >>> more democrats were votes in. tea party members lost seats in this election. >> liberals lost seats, too. that's what happens every election. if there had been a great groundswell of effort that we have to raise taxes, we have to implement this huge liberal big spending agenda john boehner would be minority leader and nancy pelosi would be speaker of the house again. >> if the tea party were in charge and you had your druthers, what would it be to get us over the fiscal cliff? >> first thing i would do is start going through the budget looking for places we can cut. >> every year the accountability office comes out with a report details hundreds of billions in waste, fraud and duplicated services. let's start cutting first. let's make the government do what american citizens have to do when things get bad. we have to tighten our belts. why doesn't the government have to do the same thing? that would be the first thing to do. i'm willing to bet we could get enough cuts in there that we could get us down to a balanc
>> you know obama ran on the fact that he would raise taxes. >>> more democrats were votes in. tea party members lost seats in this election. >> liberals lost seats, too. that's what happens every election. if there had been a great groundswell of effort that we have to raise taxes, we have to implement this huge liberal big spending agenda john boehner would be minority leader and nancy pelosi would be speaker of the house again. >> if the tea party were in charge...
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hike january 1, cuts, gives back $3 trillion of it and the bush tax cuts then become the obama tax cuts and he seems like the guy that is the tax cutter in all of this and this is a strategy, a plan from the very beginning. >> i don't think that is going to happen. i think the key is whether boehner uses the hastert bill which was to never put a bill forward that the majority in the party is not going to vote for. if he will put the hastert rule aside and give republicans a path to vote no that allows the president and the democrats to add their votes where the minority of republicans to pass this thing and i think bill cunningham is right about how this may well play out. i don't think the president want -- the president does not want to go over the cliff. the last thing he needs right now is to -- is to risk going into a second recession. the first one he can blame on push and democrats and i'm there with him. the second one will be his and on his watch. >> sean: there has been a bill in the united states senate that extends the bush tax cuts for everybody and he could at least -- the
hike january 1, cuts, gives back $3 trillion of it and the bush tax cuts then become the obama tax cuts and he seems like the guy that is the tax cutter in all of this and this is a strategy, a plan from the very beginning. >> i don't think that is going to happen. i think the key is whether boehner uses the hastert bill which was to never put a bill forward that the majority in the party is not going to vote for. if he will put the hastert rule aside and give republicans a path to vote...
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that would extend middle-class tax cut, deal with spending cuts. it's a basic plan that the president is calling for. something similar has already passed so the white house feels confident that what the president is calling for could again pass through the senate and get through the house. in order for that to happen, richard, that would involve every single democrat in the house voting for it as well as about 30 republicans. so the question is could they actually get that many republicans to vote for this pack am that the president is calling for. but politically what he is doing is essentially saying this is the plan i'm putting forth, let's get it through the senate and if it fails, it will fail through the senate house, letting republicans own that failure. putting it in a box. president obama giving the lawmakers here two options. one, to come up with their own alternative proposal. of course, that's something senate majority leader harry reid will work on. if not, he'll say put my plan to basic up or down vote. richard? >> kristen, i didn't
that would extend middle-class tax cut, deal with spending cuts. it's a basic plan that the president is calling for. something similar has already passed so the white house feels confident that what the president is calling for could again pass through the senate and get through the house. in order for that to happen, richard, that would involve every single democrat in the house voting for it as well as about 30 republicans. so the question is could they actually get that many republicans to...
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it's that president obama has retreated on his hard line on taxes. obama may think his conciliatory approach has helped avoid economic chaos. instead, he is courting it." i want to go right to jimmy williams because you have been a senate staffer. you understand how this thing works. why would the white house even bother to increase from 250,000 to 400,000. they don't really have to. they're winning this fives fight. >> the only people that actually care whether or not the threshold is 250,000 to 400,000 are these people that are going to vote on it. nobody else really cares. all they really care is that you get a deal. these people are sitting at ground zero. these snores, these liberals. i'm a liberal. i don't care what the thereby hold is. i don't give a damn if it's a million. i just want them to get a deal or go over the cliff, but somebody just make up your mind up on capitol hill. that's what the american people would like to hear. here's the bottom line. even if they do get a deal at 450,000 or 500,000 or whatever that number is, barack obama
it's that president obama has retreated on his hard line on taxes. obama may think his conciliatory approach has helped avoid economic chaos. instead, he is courting it." i want to go right to jimmy williams because you have been a senate staffer. you understand how this thing works. why would the white house even bother to increase from 250,000 to 400,000. they don't really have to. they're winning this fives fight. >> the only people that actually care whether or not the threshold...
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tax es are going to go up next year also. >> maybe. >> taxes. >> president obama has never said anyone of those thing. >> happy new year. thank you very much. thank you very much. appreciate it. the night continues head over to cnbc.com for the latest. happy new year everybody and all of 2012. excuse me, sir i'm gonna have to ask you to power down your little word game. i think your friends will understand. oh no, it's actually my geico app...see? ...i just uh paid my bill. did you really? from the plane? yeah, i can manage my policy, get roadside assistance, pretty much access geico 24/7. sounds a little too good to be true sir. i'll believe that when pigs fly. ok, did she seriously just say that? geico. just click away with our free mobile app. [ male announcer ] how could switchgrass in argentina, change engineering in dubai, aluminum production in south africa, and the aerospace industry in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest
tax es are going to go up next year also. >> maybe. >> taxes. >> president obama has never said anyone of those thing. >> happy new year. thank you very much. thank you very much. appreciate it. the night continues head over to cnbc.com for the latest. happy new year everybody and all of 2012. excuse me, sir i'm gonna have to ask you to power down your little word game. i think your friends will understand. oh no, it's actually my geico app...see? ...i just uh paid my...
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just taxing rich people. >> three words the president did not use. he did not use the word sequester and he didn't say "debt ceiling" either. he focused most of his remarx on preventing taxes from going up. there are also massive spending cuts coming. no idea how they will avert that. he also did not mention the debt ceiling. earlier they wanted lifting the debt ceiling included. now it's clear it's not in the short-term package that guarantees if they get a short-term deal here, we have major budget battles coming. >> the key to any good negotiation each side has to give up something. near and dear to their heart. what is it, as succinctly as you imagine, both sides have given up? >> both sides say the president started on threshold of tax cut of $250,000. negotiations with boehner he moved to $400,000. not if you have for boehner. he wanted it to be $1 million or more. that is something that can beer worked on. spending cuts the republicans want to see more sacrifice from the president. what they wanted to see in talks not just the small amount of
just taxing rich people. >> three words the president did not use. he did not use the word sequester and he didn't say "debt ceiling" either. he focused most of his remarx on preventing taxes from going up. there are also massive spending cuts coming. no idea how they will avert that. he also did not mention the debt ceiling. earlier they wanted lifting the debt ceiling included. now it's clear it's not in the short-term package that guarantees if they get a short-term deal...
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again, in an afternoon white house meeting president obama pitch a debt plan he had outlined a week ago, prevent a tax increase for income of less than to an effective thousand dollars per year and extend long-term unemployment benefits. senate leaders are using that framework to try to craft a proposal to pass both houses of congress. aides say it would likely increase the threshold for tax increases, reversing massive pay cut from medicare doctors, and elections of millions of americans to avoid paying the alternative minimum tax. an increase in the debt ceiling is not part of the discussion. that is significant development for house republicans who won any increase in the borrowing limit it accompanied by an equal amount in spending cuts taking the debt ceiling of the table making it much easier for the scaled-down version to be negotiated. from here senate leaders will try to secure an agreement by sunday morning. if so, democrats and republicans will try to sell its house and senate members. if they can do that the voting begins. there is some progress report this evening, though t
again, in an afternoon white house meeting president obama pitch a debt plan he had outlined a week ago, prevent a tax increase for income of less than to an effective thousand dollars per year and extend long-term unemployment benefits. senate leaders are using that framework to try to craft a proposal to pass both houses of congress. aides say it would likely increase the threshold for tax increases, reversing massive pay cut from medicare doctors, and elections of millions of americans to...
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. >> what president obama says about raising taxes. >> i am just listening to the consensus among people who know the economy best. and what they will say is that if you either increase taxes or significantly lower spending when the economies remain some what fragile it would have a de simulated effect and potentially you see a lot of folks losing business, more folks potentially losing jobs that would be a mistake when the economy has not fully taken off. >>> with me is wall street journal senior economics writer receive moore. has the president changed his mind? >> i love that quote that you have shown. i think it was almost exactly two years ago when the president said that. he said the economy was too fragile for a tax increase. the economy is more fragile now than it was two years ago. if the president were to make an announcement tonight and be a real statesman we are at a deadlock here, we can't reach an agreement, i am going to agree for the good of the country and good of the economy to extend the tax cuts for everybody for 6 months until we get this resolved we wouldn't be talk
. >> what president obama says about raising taxes. >> i am just listening to the consensus among people who know the economy best. and what they will say is that if you either increase taxes or significantly lower spending when the economies remain some what fragile it would have a de simulated effect and potentially you see a lot of folks losing business, more folks potentially losing jobs that would be a mistake when the economy has not fully taken off. >>> with me is...
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and now this, taxing all those jobs creators, all those small businesses. i don't know why you would want to invest in this country now. gerri: let me ask you this. the congressional budget office has out its numbers. if the fiscal cliff hits they say u.s. gdp would shrink by half a percentage point and that unemployment will rise to over 9%. do you think they have the rights or are they just too conservative? will it be worse? >> if we actually went over the cliff we would be subtracted from domestic demand over $600 billion. that is about four percentage points in gdp. most economists were forecasting in the first half of next year hardly 2 percent growth. if you subtract 4% to spending from that year and a recession that is much deeper. the cbo tense and not be alarmist because they say what they are partisan, but congress read it paycheck, and they don't want to say congress is being irresponsible and thrusting the economy into the next great depression. gerri: then know whether paycheck comes from. did you know that congress, the vice-president, the pr
and now this, taxing all those jobs creators, all those small businesses. i don't know why you would want to invest in this country now. gerri: let me ask you this. the congressional budget office has out its numbers. if the fiscal cliff hits they say u.s. gdp would shrink by half a percentage point and that unemployment will rise to over 9%. do you think they have the rights or are they just too conservative? will it be worse? >> if we actually went over the cliff we would be subtracted...
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spent all of the time arguing over taxes and now in the end obama is going to basically get everything he wants and the republicans will be left with almost nothing. >> chris: senator bayh? >> the president will get what he wants but as you pointed out previously and the previous panel pointed out it doesn't solve the problem. just raising taxes on the wealthy doesn't solve the debt problem. people will pivot and start focusing on that and as we approach the debt ceiling as we saw two years ago the republicans have more leverage. why? because at that point the president will be requesting to borrow another $2 trillion or $3 trillion and that doesn't poll well with the american people that is why the republicans have a stronger and then. at the have taken a step back here and conceded on tax rates but to focus a little later in two months on entitle month reform. >> chris: he has been saying it is a bad habit and we will not get into the habit of trading, you know, a trillion dollars increase in the debt limit for a trillion dollars in spending cuts. who is bluffing? kirsten says she th
spent all of the time arguing over taxes and now in the end obama is going to basically get everything he wants and the republicans will be left with almost nothing. >> chris: senator bayh? >> the president will get what he wants but as you pointed out previously and the previous panel pointed out it doesn't solve the problem. just raising taxes on the wealthy doesn't solve the debt problem. people will pivot and start focusing on that and as we approach the debt ceiling as we saw...
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from now on they will be the obama middle class tax cuts. do you believe that? >> well, don't forget the obama signed extension of these very tax cuts two years ago and said you don't raise taxes in the middle of a recession. we estimate a million small businesses will see their taxes go up. i can't find a single maul business owner that says if you raise my taxes i will hire more people. we should talk about growth and opportunity. there are three strikes against the plan as i see it. it will raise taxes. possibly put off any spending cuts. david: you're not answering the question. do you think the president, as a political tactic wants to go off the fiscal cliff so he can come in as a tax cutter? >> oh, i think he does. he wants more revenue. whether he wants to cut those taxes when he is done. when you're running 1.3 trillion dollar deficits you got to have more revenue if you're going to shrink that deficit. liz: gentlemen, why is it okay if george bush wanted to cut taxes and not if president obama wants to cut taxes? at a certain point nobody loves taxes.
from now on they will be the obama middle class tax cuts. do you believe that? >> well, don't forget the obama signed extension of these very tax cuts two years ago and said you don't raise taxes in the middle of a recession. we estimate a million small businesses will see their taxes go up. i can't find a single maul business owner that says if you raise my taxes i will hire more people. we should talk about growth and opportunity. there are three strikes against the plan as i see it. it...
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of course, president obama wants to see the bush era tax cuts extended for those making $250,000 or less while letting it raise on those making more than that. that $250,000 figure is up for debate and is up for compromise. i can tell you that republican leaders on the hill fired back saying he was more interested on assigning blame than getting something done and leading while they are trying to hammer out a deal. that is where things stand right now at the white house. clearly watching these developments quite closely. >> kristen welker, thank you. we will be checking back throughout the afternoon, as well. nchlts for more on where negotiations stand and whether a deal can be reached before the deadline we are joined by michigan democratic congressman. thank you for being here today. we are learning that negotiations have hit a major setback over a republican offer that includes entitlement changes. what exactly you hearing? >> i'm hearing just that. i think that the decision by senator mcconnell to bring up chain cpi is not a helpful step. it will effect the benefits for social securi
of course, president obama wants to see the bush era tax cuts extended for those making $250,000 or less while letting it raise on those making more than that. that $250,000 figure is up for debate and is up for compromise. i can tell you that republican leaders on the hill fired back saying he was more interested on assigning blame than getting something done and leading while they are trying to hammer out a deal. that is where things stand right now at the white house. clearly watching these...
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president obama campaigned campn capping it at $250,000, raising taxes on those who earn more than $250k, but some of the discussion and it is buzz around capitol hill has been about perhaps going to the $400,000 mark. the question is, will you get enough republicans to buy in if that is the deal? shannon? >> thanks to mike on capitol hill. we will continue to check in. now to ed henry, continuing our live team coverage from the white house. good afternoon, ed. >> reporter: good to see you, this is the president going out and trying to frame this debate on his own terms, appearing on a sunday talk show for the first time since 2009, when he was pushing health care reform, now, obviously trying to sell a fiscal cliff deerl deal. he went on nbc's "meet the press," again and again, he hammered the message, trying to put the blame on republicans for the fact we are up against this tight deadline. the president made clear that if republicans in the next 48 hours do not come up with a counter proposal to get us through this crisis, he wants an up-or-down vote on his short-term plan to extend u
president obama campaigned campn capping it at $250,000, raising taxes on those who earn more than $250k, but some of the discussion and it is buzz around capitol hill has been about perhaps going to the $400,000 mark. the question is, will you get enough republicans to buy in if that is the deal? shannon? >> thanks to mike on capitol hill. we will continue to check in. now to ed henry, continuing our live team coverage from the white house. good afternoon, ed. >> reporter: good to...
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some people say, raise taxes even more. so that is the pushback that officials are giving to that republican criticism. having said that, they remain optimistic moderately so at this point that something will get done. and of course, president obama sort of continuing his public campaign to pressure congress, not only republicans, but also, democrats who have expressed skepticism about this deal and not getting enough in new revenues. the president saying, look, this is not a perfect deal, not grand bargain, the big deal they had initially hoping for and working on but it is a deal nonetheless and will prevent at least part of the fiscal cliff set to go in to effect in a matter of hours now. >> mike, we talk a lot here about the sequester, the income tax rates for the wealthy and other issues that need to be resolved or one on the table. one that's not on the table, the payroll tax extension is just gone. unemployment insurance extension looks like it's part of this. and medicare dock fix. you have any sense of two other th
some people say, raise taxes even more. so that is the pushback that officials are giving to that republican criticism. having said that, they remain optimistic moderately so at this point that something will get done. and of course, president obama sort of continuing his public campaign to pressure congress, not only republicans, but also, democrats who have expressed skepticism about this deal and not getting enough in new revenues. the president saying, look, this is not a perfect deal, not...
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obama care does raise taxes on rich people to pay for health insurance for poor people. that is fact number one. number two, as you are ringing in the new year, think about the fact that health care for the poor will actually be improving this year. there are more than 50 million people on medicaid. medicaid is the main program used to give health care to the poor and to the children in this country. medicaid is super cheap. it is way, way cheaper than private insurance or medicare. and in part it is so cheap because it pays doctors a lot less than those programs do. that means a lot of doctors, particularly primary care doctors, don't want to participate in medicaid or they can't afford to. so a lot of folks on medicaid have trouble actually getting care. doctors who accept medicaid coverage are going to see a 73 -- primary care doctors i should say. a 73% raise in 2013. which means those folks will have more access to more doctors. so we're not just expanding health care for the poor in 2014. starting in 2013 we're making it better health care. that is fact number two.
obama care does raise taxes on rich people to pay for health insurance for poor people. that is fact number one. number two, as you are ringing in the new year, think about the fact that health care for the poor will actually be improving this year. there are more than 50 million people on medicaid. medicaid is the main program used to give health care to the poor and to the children in this country. medicaid is super cheap. it is way, way cheaper than private insurance or medicare. and in part...
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is the payroll tax. that's already obama apparently gave up on it two weeks ago and gone no matter what and only the refundables. >> yep. >> you're talking about hugely important to the working poor but for the vast majority of the country, it's almost ir el vant. we are just -- >> they aren't tax credits and what you fill out when you fill out your taxes which won't happen until 2014. if they're in effect, it costs the average family an extra $3,400 or so but in the first week, two weeks, actually, costs the average family about $40 and that's the payroll tax and if it's in effect for a month, $80. that's what we're looking at here and doesn't account for the psychological damage that will happen when the stock market tanks, employers hire fewer people. >> consumer confidence. >> confidence goes further. i mean, those are the imponderables and will happen. we're already seeing it happen and, you know, this is damaging the economy right now. this is not theoretical in the future. but a lot of economists
is the payroll tax. that's already obama apparently gave up on it two weeks ago and gone no matter what and only the refundables. >> yep. >> you're talking about hugely important to the working poor but for the vast majority of the country, it's almost ir el vant. we are just -- >> they aren't tax credits and what you fill out when you fill out your taxes which won't happen until 2014. if they're in effect, it costs the average family an extra $3,400 or so but in the first...
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social security taxes going up tomorrow. obama care taxes going up tomorrow. if you get a bounce to the market, will it last? >> i don't think it will. i think it will be very short lived. i think people will come in and sell the bounce, stuart. then they will look at the details and the details won't look good and this market may take a very big hit because of that. it will be short lived as far as i'm concerned. stuart: i'm picking up on very big hit, key words. what do you mean by that, larry levin? >> the market could -- we saw the market overnight in the s&ps trade down to 1380. i think 1350 is the next spot after that. that's another 50 points below where we're trading in the s&ps alone stuart. that's the kind of big hit i'm talking about. stuart: that would be a big hit. larry levin, thank you very much. happy new year to you. >> happy new year to you. stuart: let's bring in the author of how rich people think. steve, the rich voted not in overwhelming numbers but they certainly gave many of their votes to president obama in the last election. now, the
social security taxes going up tomorrow. obama care taxes going up tomorrow. if you get a bounce to the market, will it last? >> i don't think it will. i think it will be very short lived. i think people will come in and sell the bounce, stuart. then they will look at the details and the details won't look good and this market may take a very big hit because of that. it will be short lived as far as i'm concerned. stuart: i'm picking up on very big hit, key words. what do you mean by...
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five new taxes due to obama care will start going into effect. they impact everything from healthcare costs to the cost of medical devices. the congressional budget office says americans will end up paying $1 million. the deadly attack in benghazi was tearrism. cia and other government agencies that made changes to the talking points on the attack not the white house. following the attack u.n. ambassador susan rice says they used the talking points may have been a spontaneous protest that got out of hand. >>> netflix users can now share every movie they have err watched with facebook plans. congress passed a bill allowing netflix and other video streaming sites to share viewing history. users will have the opportunity to opt in or out of the social sharing feature. >>> colorado had the first recreational pot club. months after it became legal private members only clubs popped up all over the state. it prohibits public smoke sgug include private clubs. they have an admission fee of $30 and they have to bring their own pot. >>> countries all around
five new taxes due to obama care will start going into effect. they impact everything from healthcare costs to the cost of medical devices. the congressional budget office says americans will end up paying $1 million. the deadly attack in benghazi was tearrism. cia and other government agencies that made changes to the talking points on the attack not the white house. following the attack u.n. ambassador susan rice says they used the talking points may have been a spontaneous protest that got...
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of course, democrats and president obama have called for tax rates to increase on those making $250,000 or less. republicans have said that's way too low. so they're thinking about potentially compromising on a rate that would be $400,000 or $500,000, but some republicans are saying they don't think that the tax rate should go up on anyone. so taxes still the major sticking point. right now the negotiations are going on the hill and there's a lot of optimism that came from the talks yesterday. of course, president obama hosted congressional leaders at the white house and they left that meeting and many said that it was constructive and they were optimistic that a deal could get done and i've been talking to my sources today and that same optimism isn't really present right now. there's more skepticism about a deal getting done and it is still very early in this process and this is a fluid situation so it could change on a dime, but that's what's going on behind the scenes and the white house monitoring clearly, what's happening. >> what's the president doing today? >> reporter: well, he
of course, democrats and president obama have called for tax rates to increase on those making $250,000 or less. republicans have said that's way too low. so they're thinking about potentially compromising on a rate that would be $400,000 or $500,000, but some republicans are saying they don't think that the tax rate should go up on anyone. so taxes still the major sticking point. right now the negotiations are going on the hill and there's a lot of optimism that came from the talks yesterday....
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remember, we go back -- the bush tax cuts disappear and you add the obama care tax increases. so they're taking the top rate not to 39.6, but to 43.4 for half of all small business income in the country. and people at high income earners of the united states. add to that the 35% corporate income tax and the increases in cap gains. it's a very damaging tax increase that may well be taking effect. >> it's a very difficult position. the members of the gop that have signed your pledge now find themselves in. because either they break the pledge now, which is what appears to be happening, and they acquiesced to these higher tax rates, or we go over the fiscal cliff, or the taxes go higher, and effectively, the democrats could steal your clothes, your political clothes. they could then talk about cutting taxes from those elevated levels. we assume we'll talk about the obama tax cuts and the bush tax cuts, will long since have died. that's a very difficult situation for your guys. >> well, it would be, except the taxpayer protection pledge is not made to me, it's made to the american
remember, we go back -- the bush tax cuts disappear and you add the obama care tax increases. so they're taking the top rate not to 39.6, but to 43.4 for half of all small business income in the country. and people at high income earners of the united states. add to that the 35% corporate income tax and the increases in cap gains. it's a very damaging tax increase that may well be taking effect. >> it's a very difficult position. the members of the gop that have signed your pledge now...
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but the danger for them is that these stopped being the bush tax cuts and become the obama tax cuts, right? i think that's what conservatives and republicans should be most worried about from a long-term political perspective right now. i mean, in a sense, they have sort of -- they have won a particular policy battle in the sense that most of the bush tax cuts, both parties believe should be extended. right? we're talking about 97%, 98% of the bush tax cuts. you could say that's a policy win for republicans, but if those tax cuts ended up getting branded as obama's tax cuts that he passed after we went over the fiscal cliff, it then loses whatever upside there was for republicans, except, and we have to mention this, for republicans vulnerable to primary challenges, there's obviously a lot of anxiety about being, you know, the first republican in 20 years to vote for a tax increase. i think that's the big fear, that it's been so long. republicans haven't cast this kind of vote. you don't want to be the first one to do it. >> yeah, and charles, we're told the democrats may be waiting
but the danger for them is that these stopped being the bush tax cuts and become the obama tax cuts, right? i think that's what conservatives and republicans should be most worried about from a long-term political perspective right now. i mean, in a sense, they have sort of -- they have won a particular policy battle in the sense that most of the bush tax cuts, both parties believe should be extended. right? we're talking about 97%, 98% of the bush tax cuts. you could say that's a policy win...
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polls consistently show strong public support for raising taxes on the mg airs and billionaires obama kept talking about and most americans are more inclined to blame congressional regimes. so do democrats have the advantage right now? >> he does. we've had this national conversation after the past 14 months. to the president's credit he has been very clear and transparent about raising taxes on individuals making a certain income level. the question then becomes, where do the republicans fit into this? i'll remind you and the audience the republicans got re-elected to the majority. they are listening to their constituency as well. the real question is where can we meet in the middle where democrats have a little pain and democrats have a little pain and in the process you have a great compromise and true bipartisanship? >> and we were just talking about this, admiral, with congresswoman lee. i mean, there is this idea that we have just enough that maybe will get done today or tomorrow or in the next week or so, but essentially this is kicking the can down the road. there are still th
polls consistently show strong public support for raising taxes on the mg airs and billionaires obama kept talking about and most americans are more inclined to blame congressional regimes. so do democrats have the advantage right now? >> he does. we've had this national conversation after the past 14 months. to the president's credit he has been very clear and transparent about raising taxes on individuals making a certain income level. the question then becomes, where do the republicans...
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i hope republicans will fight as hard on the debt ceiling as barack obama did on tax rate. uma: you call everything going on in washington right now dysfunctional. the american people are kwaeutinwaiting to see what is going to happen here. many people are frustrated and upset that once again we are at the 11th hour trying to get a deal done at a time when there was a lot of time before this to work something out. >> because the senate doesn't function any more. the house has passed three or four bills to avoid sequestration, to save the military from these cuts, to deal with the fiscal cliff. if you don't like the house's product bring it on the floor of the senate and let's change it. let's start being legislators instead of just a place where ideas go and die in the united states senate, it's embarrassing to me being the most deliberative body in the world and not be able to have a debate about how the fiscal cliff drama should end. we should have had the house bill on the floor months ago. harry reid blocks everything coming from the house, this place is completely dysf
i hope republicans will fight as hard on the debt ceiling as barack obama did on tax rate. uma: you call everything going on in washington right now dysfunctional. the american people are kwaeutinwaiting to see what is going to happen here. many people are frustrated and upset that once again we are at the 11th hour trying to get a deal done at a time when there was a lot of time before this to work something out. >> because the senate doesn't function any more. the house has passed three...
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the hang up is the tax hikes on the rich. those making over $250,000 in the obama reposal or $400,000, a level that mitch mcconnell reportedly said he might be able to sel? republicans won the debate shifted. >> the talk about taxes, but what it should be about is what we want to talk about today -- the medicare fiscal cliff. >> no date to cut a day to reform entitlements by tuesday. >> if we do something right now to have long-lasting, adverse effects on economic growth, that will affect us for a long time. >> until the cliff, americans say fix the tax problem. >> it's so frustrating to see both sides so far apart. >> we should not be taxed more because they cannot work together. >> get the middle class down and figure of the rest of it come january, worst case. >> worst case? no deal on anything. some tea party republicans are ready to let everyone is taxes rise so they can quickly help fix the problem and claim they voted to cut taxes. wbal-tv 11 news. >> some good news and now with the ravens officially in the playoffs. n
the hang up is the tax hikes on the rich. those making over $250,000 in the obama reposal or $400,000, a level that mitch mcconnell reportedly said he might be able to sel? republicans won the debate shifted. >> the talk about taxes, but what it should be about is what we want to talk about today -- the medicare fiscal cliff. >> no date to cut a day to reform entitlements by tuesday. >> if we do something right now to have long-lasting, adverse effects on economic growth, that...
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i think in terms of taxes this is probably obama's high water mark. >> bret: it just seems like this is taking a long time for this caucus meeting particularly if all of the signals that were going out to all of the news organizations and all of the statements being made was that the deal is done and we have a deal, a very ecstatic looking vice president biden walking past reporters saying happy new year. you know, it seems like there could be some trouble here even on the senate side before you even get past the hurdle of the house. >> you know, that is absolutely true. i think there is no question and we saw this actually earlier today even as the outlines were taking shape a number of democratic senators came to the senate floor and talked badly said this is not a bill that they would have signed and some even so far to say look this is not a deal we should accept and then tom thought we should go over the fiscal cliff and start from the standpoint when rates have gone up everywhere and then start and deal with rates after you have all of the new revenue coming in and sort of star
i think in terms of taxes this is probably obama's high water mark. >> bret: it just seems like this is taking a long time for this caucus meeting particularly if all of the signals that were going out to all of the news organizations and all of the statements being made was that the deal is done and we have a deal, a very ecstatic looking vice president biden walking past reporters saying happy new year. you know, it seems like there could be some trouble here even on the senate side...
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i think that democrats don't want to feel like president obama caved on the tax rates. he campaigned pretty strongly on the $250,000 threshold. now that is moving to $400,000, $450,000 for couples. i think that democrats are thinking we could have gone over and just a couple days republicans would have had to come back and probably would have -- democrats would have had more leverage. that said i think that vice president biden will argue that, you know, this was reasonable and you want to give certainty again to those markets and be able to look reasonable in this process. i think for republicans there are going to be a couple things. first they don't want taxes to go up on anybody and this essentially makes them look like they're voting for a tax increase although they actually would be voting for a tax cut but it is amazing the way it's been framed by both conservative groups and the white house, interestingly. i do think that there are a few things in there in the details if you think about the estate tax change, the changes to dividends and capital gains, and the f
i think that democrats don't want to feel like president obama caved on the tax rates. he campaigned pretty strongly on the $250,000 threshold. now that is moving to $400,000, $450,000 for couples. i think that democrats are thinking we could have gone over and just a couple days republicans would have had to come back and probably would have -- democrats would have had more leverage. that said i think that vice president biden will argue that, you know, this was reasonable and you want to give...